Dimensionality in learning adaptations

UDLCO summary : The inquiry into dimensionality in learning adaptations acknowledges that most academic learning has currently evolved into a process of objectively structuring subjective complex multidimensional real life data (blooms level 3-5) into a two dimensional space (blooms level 1 aka knowledge) that can be stored forwarded asynchronously and modeled conceptually to gain understanding (blooms level 2) through further analysis ( level 4) and evaluation (level 5) and then relooped into the learning ecosystem as creative communication/publication (level 6). This learning is cyclic and one can keep moving in and out of these levels at any entry or exit point regardless of level numbers. 

UDLC transcripts:

 

[12/11, 8:35 AM] Rakesh Biswas: A renunciate explains to PM why the prime driver for optimal collective cognition for national development is education toward a sustainable ecological balance of attitude, ethics, communication, aka AETCOM and not let the youth fall prey to material pleasure driven vyabhichara 

https://youtu.be/r6q7lC6a1Ow?feature=shared

[12/11, 8:37 AM] Prof S : With " vyavichar" all around, ......such lecturing has any value???🤷🏻‍♀️

[12/11, 8:39 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Once it comes as an NMC circular it will

[12/11, 8:40 AM] Prof S Physiology  : Well, let me be hopeful

[12/11, 8:47 AM] Prof S Physiology : Looks really good on-papers….

[12/11, 9:09 AM] Rakesh Biswas: And in video as in the above?

[12/11, 9:13 AM] Prof SaKlesh Peds  : Even better

[12/11, 9:55 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Thanks for the profound inputs that acted as a cognitive stimulant.

Yes it's a dimensionality issue! When we say it looks good on paper we could mean current academic learning that is predominantly in two dimensional spaces that can often appear unreal to those who don't live inside their device screens! 

In fact most academic learning has currently evolved into a process of objectively structuring subjective complex multidimensional real life data (blooms level 3-5) into a two dimensional space (blooms level 1 aka knowledge) that can be stored forwarded asynchronously and modeled conceptually to gain understanding (blooms level 2) through further analysis ( level 4) and evaluation (level 5) and then relooped into the learning ecosystem as creative communication/publication (level 6). This learning is cyclic and one can keep moving in and out of these levels at any entry or exit point regardless of level numbers. 

Is it possible to learn directly from 3 dimensional lived life experiences doing away with the 2 dimensional modeling altogether? 

Perhaps humans would need something like a biologically implanted multimodal AI tool in their BNNs to achieve that? @⁨Dr Avneesh Khare 🇮🇳⁩ 

More about our ongoing tryst to osce clinical dimensionality here👇

https://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2023/12/ongoing-project-draft-optimizing.html?m=1

[12/12, 9:18 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Creating an ontology difference when there's none.

Labelling and sorting.

It's there now too,in different context.

Castes became religions and nations..

Only solution for this is intergalactic interdimensional travel/posthumanism.

Gotta involve aliens into the equation

[12/12, 9:20 AM] Rakesh Biswas: No ontologic difference between god, humans and AI...liens

[12/12, 9:23 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Again spurred my recent thoughts on dimensionality. 

While I have become recently convinced how we academics are essentially engaged in converting three dimensional multimodal reality into manageable two dimensions, I was pondering about what would it be like to live in a unidimensional world of singularity? 

Have postponed my google searching on it for now but if anyone here is interested in collaborating on the paper below then could help by sharing more about dimensionality to begin with :

https://medicinedepartment.blogspot.com/2023/12/ongoing-project-draft-optimizing.html?m=1

[12/12, 9:22 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Politics between god and deities/aliens too!

[12/12, 9:25 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Aka anava mala that gives us our sense of separation as an object rather than being a subject and that also creates this constant sense of something that is lacking

[12/12, 9:31 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Exploring the concept of a unidimensional world is intriguing. In such a reality, complexity and diversity might be drastically reduced, potentially leading to a simpler existence.(Which is good too-Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication) However, it raises questions about perception, experience, and the nature of existence itself.

[12/12, 9:32 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 'Selfish gene' as mentioned by Richard dawkins,keeps the duality game going forever

[12/12, 9:33 AM] Rakesh Biswas: Also think how would life be in the x axis without the y axis? 

Would it be like a singular point or bindu that is essentially a cross-section of the x or y axis?

[12/12, 9:34 AM] Rakesh Biswas: The two dimensional world that we academics love to create and where a large population hooked to their mobile screens also reside is also known as flat land

[12/12, 9:35 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Less variables in 2d mobile world compared to 3d outer world.

No variables in singularity

[12/12, 9:38 AM] Rakesh Biswas: How would it be like to reside in a world with no variables? 

First chapter of conscious notebook? 

Topic for eschatology? 

http://consciousnotebooksequel.blogspot.com/2022/11/conscious-notebook-first-few-pages.html?m=1

Real world revisitation of dimensionality :

Revisited anew this amazing composition by Kabiguru on his birthday on the 25th of Baisakh

https://youtu.be/yvTrkQmancQ?feature=shared

The raga kanada as a hindusthani raagang is itself not spoken of much and not much exists other than it's carnatic take, which itself has controversial origins!  

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvYjjuT_hEESGzp7AdRKOe_ywx0y8kgOV&feature=shared

Sadharana/Komal Gandhar (Ga) and Chaturshruti/Shudda/Komal Dhaivat (Dha) are vakra (zigzag) in descent and are used in phrases like gMR and dnP. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanada_(family_of_ragas)

Thought I would update the translation keeping with the times :

Here it goes :

Are you just a few pixels 

Creating an illusion 

In my mobile x-y axis screen!

Are you not as real as 

What I can see of 

The cells and celĺ-estial bodies 

Trillions apparently lying  sessile 

Inside a human body as tissue 

And trillions in it's gut 

Going back and forth 

In it's internal and external medicine journeys?

Your cell-estial essentials 

Seem to throb in it's multidimensionality 

While you remain aloof in a dual dimension?

It seems it was just the other day 

That I felt you in all your real dimensional glory 

Although it could have been a million years from now 

It's difficult to tell 

I do know this now 

You're not just a 

Pixellated image 

You are everything 

That keeps my Android body going 

I thank my electric stars 

And cell-estial electric sheep 

That I can't count and yet know 

That they are the poetry 

Inside the poet 

Original translation by Kabiguru himself:

https://www.geetabitan.com/lyrics/T/tumi-ki-keboli-chhobi-lyric.html

Are you a mere picture, and not as true as those stars, true as this dust? They throb with the pulse of things, but you are immensely aloof in your stillness, painted form. The day was when you walked with me, your breath warm, your limbs singing of life. My world found its speech in your voice, and touched my heart with your face. You suddenly stopped in your walk, in the shadow- side of the forever, and i went on alone. Life, like a child, laughs, shaking its rattle of death as it runs; it beckons me on, i follow the unseen; but you stand there, where you stopped behind that dust and those stars; and you are a mere picture. No, it cannot be. Had the lifeflood utterly stopped in you, it would stop the river in its flow, and the footfall of dawn in her cadence of colours. Had the glimmering dusk of your hair vanished in the hopeless dark, the woodland shade of summer would die with its dreams. Can it be true that i forgot you? We haste on without heed, forgetting the flowers on the roadside hedge. Yet they breathe unaware into our forgetfulness, filling it with music. You have moved from my world, to take seat at the root of my life, and therefore is this forgetting-remembrance lost in its own depth. You are no longer before my songs, but one with them. You came to me with the first ray of dawn. I lost you with the last gold of evening. Ever since I am always finding you through the dark. No, you are no mere picture.

Original in Bengali :

Tumi ki keboli chhobi,shudhu pote likha Oi - je sudhur niharika Jaara kore aachhe bhir aakasher nir, Oi jaara dinraatri Aalo haathe choliyachhe aandharer jaatri Groho taara robi, Tumi ki taader moto satya nao, Haay chhobi, tumi shudhu chhobi. Nayonosamukhe tumi naai, Nayoner maajhkhaane niyechho je thnaai - aaji taai Shyamale shyamal tumi, nilimay nil. Aamar nikhil tomate peyechhe taar antorer mil. Naahi jaani, keho naahi jaane. Tabo sur baaje mor gaane, Kobir antore tumi kobi - Nao chhobi, nao chhobi, shudhu nao chhobi.

তুমি কি কেবলই ছবি, শুধু পটে লিখা।

              ওই-যে সুদূর নীহারিকা

          যারা করে আছে ভিড়   আকাশের নীড়,

              ওই যারা দিনরাত্রি

আলো হাতে চলিয়াছে আঁধারের যাত্রী   গ্রহ তারা রবি,

          তুমি কি তাদের মতো সত্য নও।

                        হায় ছবি, তুমি শুধু ছবি॥

              নয়নসমুখে তুমি নাই,

          নয়নের মাঝখানে নিয়েছ যে ঠাঁই-- আজি তাই

              শ্যামলে শ্যামল তুমি, নীলিমায় নীল।

আমার নিখিল   তোমাতে পেয়েছে তার অন্তরের মিল।

                        নাহি জানি, কেহ নাহি জানে--

                   তব সুর বাজে মোর গানে,

                        কবির অন্তরে তুমি কবি--

                   নও ছবি, নও ছবি, নও শুধু ছবি॥

https://tagoreweb.in/Songs/bichitra-237/tumi-ki-kebali-chhobi-5868

Other poems in the consciousnotebook: 

http://consciousnotebooksequel.blogspot.com/2015/11/conscious-notebook-poetry-and-those.html?m=1

UDLCO : Makar Sankranti and the wheel of dharma

 

[1/15, 10:08 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Wish you a very Happy Makar Sankranthi everyone.

Today,the Sun enters Capricorn constellation

[1/15, 12:05 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 

@⁨Channu 

Sankranthi is literally a festival of cows,harvest and joint family.

It's huge festival in Telugu states..

Kites,Rangoli and Harikatha too.

In Rayalaseema,we can see cows walking in houses only..And covering entire floor with holy cowshit.

And for Sankranthi,like,entire joint family unites,reap the harvest,fly kites,cook snacks enough till Summer holidays and chill.

One of the finest festivals.

Festivals,cows,temples,joint families should be protected yo!

Especially in 21st century.

Those are the major things gelling the culture together..

And after Jan 22nd,they should only accelerate more in full throttle mode,instead of getting lax

[1/15, 12:27 PM] Channu: Agree

[1/15, 12:34 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Why is it called makar Sankranti? 

I'm intrigued by the word makar that has iconographic allusions to transhumanism:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makara#:~:text=Etymology,-A%20crocodile%2Dlike&text=Makara%20is%20a%20Sanskrit%20word,of%20Jain%20text%20of%20S%C5%ABryapraj%C3%B1apti.

[1/15, 12:36 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 

Sun enters the constellation of Capricorn.

There's also Mesha Sankranthi(Sun enters the constellation of Aries).

We can consider them as start of Kharif and Rabi in new gen anglicized lingo

[1/15, 12:43 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Yes but why is Capricorn the goat substituted with a transhuman animal makara by Indian astrology? 

Also where do the pancha makaras figure in this terminology twister

[1/15, 12:44 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Artistic expression and symbolism of observations of Constellations by early humans

[1/15, 12:44 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 

@⁨Pt DM Asth HYD any inputs?

[1/15, 12:52 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Pancha makara ante enti?

[1/15, 12:58 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD:

 Tantrika Vidya essentials

[1/15, 12:59 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Madam, mamsam, Mataram, Mudra and Maidhunam.

Mudra means Dhanyam

[1/15, 1:00 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: *madyam (wine)

[1/15, 1:00 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2  Dinesh Father: *matsyam (chepa/fish)

[1/15, 1:02 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: This is against vaidika upasana

[1/15, 1:02 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: It is tantrika upasana

[1/15, 1:03 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I guess all Upasanas get together to make Sanathan Dharma.

Collaborating with each other

@⁨Rakesh Biswas⁩ 

Your inputs?

[1/15, 1:04 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Can we call the collaboration of all Upasanas as metatantrism?Or metapsych?

[1/15, 1:06 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Erlier days Vijayawada Kanaka Durga had Tantrika pooja later AdiShankaracharya by SriChakra Pratishta converted it into Vaidika Shakti.  Now the daily poojas performed as per vaidika sampradaya👍

[1/15, 1:08 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Makara when in water have elephant strength..it is showing

[1/15, 1:08 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Upasanamatta

[1/15, 1:08 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Gajendramoksham story?

[1/15, 1:09 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Mattopasana.

Sandhi vibhakthi.In Telugu vyakarana

[1/15, 1:10 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2: But one flaw in that story/picture.  Makara never catch elephant leg.  It catches elephant trunk

[1/15, 1:12 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Yep.

Croc has poor target.

Crocodile should do Tratakam and aim for elephant's Makutham(forehead).

Guess Vishnu won't interfere if crocodile aims for Makutham of elephant.

Even if Vishnu does,can focus on Vishnu's feet at that time

[1/15, 1:18 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: In the gajendramoksham story,suppose if croc worships Vishnu,but not the elephant,what would happen?

@⁨Rakesh Biswas⁩ 

[1/15, 1:19 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Capricorn is a goat from western astrology while makara is a different beast from Indian astrology where it's representation of makar rasi may not be the same as constellation. 

rāśi (Sanskrit: राशि) is a 30° arc of the orbit of the Sun around the Earth[12] (i.e an arc of the ecliptic).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomical_basis_of_the_Hindu_calendar

Different cultures have seen patterns in the sky unique to their history. Many cultures share some constellations (Orion is a notable example), but most don’t.

https://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/what-is-the-zodiac/

[1/15, 1:20 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2: We follow  Chandrayana.

Makara is Capricorn

[1/15, 1:29 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Makar Sankranti is one of the few Hindu festivals that align with the solar cycle.

[1/15, 1:21 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Orion belt is a very new term.

It's called Saptarshi mandalam since eons in this land.

Even Nostradamous mentioned it as 13th constellation in his Quatrain writings

[1/15, 1:22 PM] Rakesh Biswas: No Saptarshi is known as the great bear or ursa major by the West

[1/15, 1:24 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Saptarshi mandala is orion belt and Dhruv Tara is Polaris.

Maybe wrong..

My understanding.

We wl have to confirm

[1/15, 1:30 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Yes Saptarshi is used to locate star Polaris but the Saptarshi rashi is called ursa major constellation and not Orion

[1/15, 1:31 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Let me try checking it on stargaze tonight and update.

[1/15, 1:32 PM] Rakesh Biswas: I used to take hands on lectures in star watching during my college days for school camps. Can show you all the constellations and their stars in any properly dark night sky. Maybe this can be a metapsych elective

[1/15, 1:33 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I do the same too.

Have got quite a few dates worked out on this too.

Can show you guys atleast 4 to 5 constellations

[1/15, 1:50 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: @⁨Rakesh Biswas⁩ 

Shall we have to understand the Gajendramoksham story as victim playcard and submission of elephant?

Isn't crocodile doing it's dharma(aka feeding on its hunger?)

[1/15, 2:03 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Both crocodile (aka Huhu a Gandharva king on his past life regression evaluation)and Gajendra (Indradyumna in his past life regression evaluation) attained moKsha

[1/15, 2:05 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Exactly.

Moksha is inevitable,nonetheless.

Because it is what there is.

This would only pull us to realism rather than spiritual escapism.

[1/15, 2:51 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I'd agree that focus is important.

But what we focus on?Is that important?

Can we cultivate diverse focus which can disrupt establishments?

Can focus only be targeted?

@⁨Rakesh Biswas⁩

[1/15, 2:53 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Plurality can cultivate diverse streams and all these focused rivers (ontologies) end in the ocean (epistemology) of bliss (singularity)

[1/15, 2:53 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Can we focus just on disruption?regardless of any ontological constraints of medicine,science,politics etc?

[1/15, 2:55 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Complexity and chaos (disruption) is an integral part of real world systems and loss of complexity and chaos is closer to death

[1/15, 2:55 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Perhaps

[1/15, 4:15 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: We need ontology of agreements…. And even better, a mixed pragmatic position.

[1/15, 4:16 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 💯agree sir.

For all I know,I may be blinded from my positions.

I'm always open for criticisms and discussions everytime

[1/15, 5:01 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Profound point 👏👏

Ontology is the specification of objects and their ties and objects can't be tied without their agreement particularly in self evolving systems be it nature or artificial life (as is our current frame of reality). 

Those objects that disagree fall apart into dissolution aka driven by shiva the destroyer into a black hole of singularity 

Those objects that are forced into coercion and creativity by forces of synthesis aka Brahma continue to weave our epistemological tapestry while Vishnu the arm chair physician entrusted with minimalist maintenance enjoys the position of observer!

[1/15, 5:02 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Dharma is very simple.

In Telugu,Amma and aavu(Mother and cow) is dharma

[1/15, 5:03 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Is Bharatamaata(aka our sovereign land) amma?

[1/15, 5:07 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Whatever we have left now!

[1/15, 5:07 PM] Rakesh Biswas: They are forces of maintenance 

Dharma is being part of the universe governed by the three forces 

One doesn't need to practice dharma. 

Just be.

[1/15, 5:08 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The universe is not just land! 

There are intergalactic social determinants of how one can "just be"

[1/15, 5:08 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Dharma is real.

And what balances the 2nd law of thermodynamics of entropy.

It's not practice.

It's counteractivity

[1/15, 5:09 PM] Rakesh Biswas: It's just a wheel that shall keep moving regardless of dinosaurs or humans ruling the blue planet

[1/15, 5:09 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Nailed it

[1/15, 5:33 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Idealism

[1/15, 5:38 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: @⁨Channu New⁩ what's the difference between idealism,realism and wokism?

[1/15, 7:10 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Did we become owners of Pramana of 1.4 billion population because we are qualified and doctors?

@⁨Prof Prashant Oman Peds⁩

[1/15, 9:28 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: Assuming that I understood your Q correctly … 

We are not the owners and/or pramana of science in the sense that we have no direct or complete access to the truth of the real world…. we are not the only ones who can access or contribute to scientific knowledge, as there are other forms of knowledge and ways of knowing that may complement or challenge science. 

But we are the pramana of science in the sense that we participate in the social process of creating & even challenging knowledge abt the real world (through intuition, observation, scepticism, logic, authority, so on).

[1/15, 9:29 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: Scientists don’t have have bias or prejudice. So, before jumping to conclusions (that suit a set of prejudices, beliefs or ideology)….. we have the responsibility to check the accuracy of info. Is it validated , critiqued, or attested by peers or credible sources? Does it provide half or full facts or just opinions? Does it use logical arguments or just emotional /rhetorical appeals? Does it ignore or twist facts and/or contradict itself…

[1/15, 9:29 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Torchbearers!

So much accountability and responsibility,it's scary and spooky

[1/15, 9:30 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Very well agree sir!

I also believe on putting out opinions for discussions!

[1/15, 9:35 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: A real world exists independently of our perceptions and interpretations (critical realism perspective) …. And that our knowledge of this world tends to be partial, fallible, and socially constructed..

[1/15, 9:59 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: What's real world?🤔

[1/15, 10:09 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: I have used the “real world” term in critical realism perspective… I mean, to refer to the physical reality that exists “outside” of our mind or imagination. Physical  structures /interactions that cause observable events but are not directly observable themselves.