[1/15, 10:08 AM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Wish you a very Happy Makar Sankranthi everyone.
Today,the Sun enters Capricorn constellation
[1/15, 12:05 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015:
@Channu
Sankranthi is literally a festival of cows,harvest and joint family.
It's huge festival in Telugu states..
Kites,Rangoli and Harikatha too.
In Rayalaseema,we can see cows walking in houses only..And covering entire floor with holy cowshit.
And for Sankranthi,like,entire joint family unites,reap the harvest,fly kites,cook snacks enough till Summer holidays and chill.
One of the finest festivals.
Festivals,cows,temples,joint families should be protected yo!
Especially in 21st century.
Those are the major things gelling the culture together..
And after Jan 22nd,they should only accelerate more in full throttle mode,instead of getting lax
[1/15, 12:27 PM] Channu: Agree
[1/15, 12:34 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Why is it called makar Sankranti?
I'm intrigued by the word makar that has iconographic allusions to transhumanism:
[1/15, 12:36 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015:
Sun enters the constellation of Capricorn.
There's also Mesha Sankranthi(Sun enters the constellation of Aries).
We can consider them as start of Kharif and Rabi in new gen anglicized lingo
[1/15, 12:43 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Yes but why is Capricorn the goat substituted with a transhuman animal makara by Indian astrology?
Also where do the pancha makaras figure in this terminology twister
[1/15, 12:44 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Artistic expression and symbolism of observations of Constellations by early humans
[1/15, 12:44 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015:
@Pt DM Asth HYD any inputs?
[1/15, 12:52 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Pancha makara ante enti?
[1/15, 12:58 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD:
Tantrika Vidya essentials
[1/15, 12:59 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Madam, mamsam, Mataram, Mudra and Maidhunam.
Mudra means Dhanyam
[1/15, 1:00 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: *madyam (wine)
[1/15, 1:00 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2 Dinesh Father: *matsyam (chepa/fish)
[1/15, 1:02 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: This is against vaidika upasana
[1/15, 1:02 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: It is tantrika upasana
[1/15, 1:03 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I guess all Upasanas get together to make Sanathan Dharma.
Collaborating with each other
@Rakesh Biswas
Your inputs?
[1/15, 1:04 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Can we call the collaboration of all Upasanas as metatantrism?Or metapsych?
[1/15, 1:06 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Erlier days Vijayawada Kanaka Durga had Tantrika pooja later AdiShankaracharya by SriChakra Pratishta converted it into Vaidika Shakti. Now the daily poojas performed as per vaidika sampradaya👍
[1/15, 1:08 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD: Makara when in water have elephant strength..it is showing
[1/15, 1:08 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Upasanamatta
[1/15, 1:08 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Gajendramoksham story?
[1/15, 1:09 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Mattopasana.
Sandhi vibhakthi.In Telugu vyakarana
[1/15, 1:10 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2: But one flaw in that story/picture. Makara never catch elephant leg. It catches elephant trunk
[1/15, 1:12 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Yep.
Croc has poor target.
Crocodile should do Tratakam and aim for elephant's Makutham(forehead).
Guess Vishnu won't interfere if crocodile aims for Makutham of elephant.
Even if Vishnu does,can focus on Vishnu's feet at that time
[1/15, 1:18 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: In the gajendramoksham story,suppose if croc worships Vishnu,but not the elephant,what would happen?
@Rakesh Biswas
[1/15, 1:19 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Capricorn is a goat from western astrology while makara is a different beast from Indian astrology where it's representation of makar rasi may not be the same as constellation.
rāśi (Sanskrit: राशि) is a 30° arc of the orbit of the Sun around the Earth[12] (i.e an arc of the ecliptic).
Different cultures have seen patterns in the sky unique to their history. Many cultures share some constellations (Orion is a notable example), but most don’t.
[1/15, 1:20 PM] Pt DM Asth HYD2: We follow Chandrayana.
Makara is Capricorn
[1/15, 1:29 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Makar Sankranti is one of the few Hindu festivals that align with the solar cycle.
[1/15, 1:21 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Orion belt is a very new term.
It's called Saptarshi mandalam since eons in this land.
Even Nostradamous mentioned it as 13th constellation in his Quatrain writings
[1/15, 1:22 PM] Rakesh Biswas: No Saptarshi is known as the great bear or ursa major by the West
[1/15, 1:24 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Saptarshi mandala is orion belt and Dhruv Tara is Polaris.
Maybe wrong..
My understanding.
We wl have to confirm
[1/15, 1:30 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Yes Saptarshi is used to locate star Polaris but the Saptarshi rashi is called ursa major constellation and not Orion
[1/15, 1:31 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Let me try checking it on stargaze tonight and update.
[1/15, 1:32 PM] Rakesh Biswas: I used to take hands on lectures in star watching during my college days for school camps. Can show you all the constellations and their stars in any properly dark night sky. Maybe this can be a metapsych elective
[1/15, 1:33 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I do the same too.
Have got quite a few dates worked out on this too.
Can show you guys atleast 4 to 5 constellations
[1/15, 1:50 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: @Rakesh Biswas
Shall we have to understand the Gajendramoksham story as victim playcard and submission of elephant?
Isn't crocodile doing it's dharma(aka feeding on its hunger?)
[1/15, 2:03 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Both crocodile (aka Huhu a Gandharva king on his past life regression evaluation)and Gajendra (Indradyumna in his past life regression evaluation) attained moKsha
[1/15, 2:05 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Exactly.
Moksha is inevitable,nonetheless.
Because it is what there is.
This would only pull us to realism rather than spiritual escapism.
[1/15, 2:51 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: I'd agree that focus is important.
But what we focus on?Is that important?
Can we cultivate diverse focus which can disrupt establishments?
Can focus only be targeted?
@Rakesh Biswas
[1/15, 2:53 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Plurality can cultivate diverse streams and all these focused rivers (ontologies) end in the ocean (epistemology) of bliss (singularity)
[1/15, 2:53 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Can we focus just on disruption?regardless of any ontological constraints of medicine,science,politics etc?
[1/15, 2:55 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Complexity and chaos (disruption) is an integral part of real world systems and loss of complexity and chaos is closer to death
[1/15, 2:55 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Perhaps
[1/15, 4:15 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: We need ontology of agreements…. And even better, a mixed pragmatic position.
[1/15, 4:16 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: 💯agree sir.
For all I know,I may be blinded from my positions.
I'm always open for criticisms and discussions everytime
[1/15, 5:01 PM] Rakesh Biswas: Profound point 👏👏
Ontology is the specification of objects and their ties and objects can't be tied without their agreement particularly in self evolving systems be it nature or artificial life (as is our current frame of reality).
Those objects that disagree fall apart into dissolution aka driven by shiva the destroyer into a black hole of singularity
Those objects that are forced into coercion and creativity by forces of synthesis aka Brahma continue to weave our epistemological tapestry while Vishnu the arm chair physician entrusted with minimalist maintenance enjoys the position of observer!
[1/15, 5:02 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Dharma is very simple.
In Telugu,Amma and aavu(Mother and cow) is dharma
[1/15, 5:03 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Is Bharatamaata(aka our sovereign land) amma?
[1/15, 5:07 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Whatever we have left now!
[1/15, 5:07 PM] Rakesh Biswas: They are forces of maintenance
Dharma is being part of the universe governed by the three forces
One doesn't need to practice dharma.
Just be.
[1/15, 5:08 PM] Rakesh Biswas: The universe is not just land!
There are intergalactic social determinants of how one can "just be"
[1/15, 5:08 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Dharma is real.
And what balances the 2nd law of thermodynamics of entropy.
It's not practice.
It's counteractivity
[1/15, 5:09 PM] Rakesh Biswas: It's just a wheel that shall keep moving regardless of dinosaurs or humans ruling the blue planet
[1/15, 5:09 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Nailed it
[1/15, 5:33 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Idealism
[1/15, 5:38 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: @Channu New what's the difference between idealism,realism and wokism?
[1/15, 7:10 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Did we become owners of Pramana of 1.4 billion population because we are qualified and doctors?
@Prof Prashant Oman Peds
[1/15, 9:28 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: Assuming that I understood your Q correctly …
We are not the owners and/or pramana of science in the sense that we have no direct or complete access to the truth of the real world…. we are not the only ones who can access or contribute to scientific knowledge, as there are other forms of knowledge and ways of knowing that may complement or challenge science.
But we are the pramana of science in the sense that we participate in the social process of creating & even challenging knowledge abt the real world (through intuition, observation, scepticism, logic, authority, so on).
[1/15, 9:29 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: Scientists don’t have have bias or prejudice. So, before jumping to conclusions (that suit a set of prejudices, beliefs or ideology)….. we have the responsibility to check the accuracy of info. Is it validated , critiqued, or attested by peers or credible sources? Does it provide half or full facts or just opinions? Does it use logical arguments or just emotional /rhetorical appeals? Does it ignore or twist facts and/or contradict itself…
[1/15, 9:29 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Torchbearers!
So much accountability and responsibility,it's scary and spooky
[1/15, 9:30 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: Very well agree sir!
I also believe on putting out opinions for discussions!
[1/15, 9:35 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: A real world exists independently of our perceptions and interpretations (critical realism perspective) …. And that our knowledge of this world tends to be partial, fallible, and socially constructed..
[1/15, 9:59 PM] Metapsychist Number 1 Kims 2015: What's real world?🤔
[1/15, 10:09 PM] Prof Prashant Oman Peds: I have used the “real world” term in critical realism perspective… I mean, to refer to the physical reality that exists “outside” of our mind or imagination. Physical structures /interactions that cause observable events but are not directly observable themselves.
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